Cia tai bent kuro siurbliai...

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LR, Greitkelis "Agregate sumontuoti 2 tiesioginio įpurškimo siurbliai, 2 tūkstančių barų spaudimu tiekiantys degalus dvylikai purkštukų." Čia tokie Audi V12 TDI motore...
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nu kad tiekia 2kbar, bet kad kuro skirstytuve tiek, tai yra racijos
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Sheikhas wrote:LR, Greitkelis "Agregate sumontuoti 2 tiesioginio įpurškimo siurbliai, 2 tūkstančių barų spaudimu tiekiantys degalus dvylikai purkštukų." Čia tokie Audi V12 TDI motore...
atrodo s13 yra 1.5bar`o
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Todo2 wrote:
Sheikhas wrote:LR, Greitkelis "Agregate sumontuoti 2 tiesioginio įpurškimo siurbliai, 2 tūkstančių barų spaudimu tiekiantys degalus dvylikai purkštukų." Čia tokie Audi V12 TDI motore...
atrodo s13 yra 1.5bar`o
baik juokus. rail'e 2.5 vaziuojant buna. laisva 2

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tai as ir sakau, kad pasak LR ten NASA technologijos :)
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Sheikhas wrote:tai as ir sakau, kad pasak LR ten NASA technologijos :)
Tai nesuprantu, netikit kad ten 2000 bar?

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as irgi nesupratau :) Siaip tas audi nauji dyzeliai tuom ir ypatingi kad paduoda kura dar negirdetu spaudimu
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Spoogen wrote:as irgi nesupratau :) Siaip tas audi nauji dyzeliai tuom ir ypatingi kad paduoda kura dar negirdetu spaudimu
Kuo tas spaudimas negirdetas? Cia juk dyzelis o ne benzas. Praktiskai visi tiesioginio ipurskimo dyzeliai nuo ~2002 slegis 1600 bar.
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Tai cia toks spaudimas visoj sistemoj??? :shock:

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Groozdas wrote:Tai cia toks spaudimas visoj sistemoj??? :shock:
Pas dyzeli yra auksto slegio kuro siurblys, ir toks slegis yra visame fuel rail'e. Aisku, nuo auksto slegio siurblio iki bako tokio slegio nera.

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O bliaa :shock: 2k baru =]
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p4r4z1t45 wrote:O bliaa :shock: 2k baru =]
Seip IMHO pizdiozhas che zhurnalistinis. Netikiu, kad pas ta zyzeli stovi mechaniniai purkshtukai. Greichiausiai stovi pumpiduzes, kas yra purkshtukas/kurosiurblys viename. Tie pradiniai plunzheriai jauchiu spusteli koki 20-30 baru iki magistrales (nu gal daugiau kazkiek), o purkshtukai patys toliau jau "ishstumia" po afigiennu slegiu kura i cilindrus.

Che lygei taip pat kaip rashaliniam printeri buna 2000 laipsniu galvuteje. Kai pagalvoji tai :shock:, o kai pamastai, tai 2mikrosekundes ir pora mikronu yra visishka fignia :). Milimetro storio metalo plokshtele net nejauchia.

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kwlw wrote:
p4r4z1t45 wrote:O bliaa :shock: 2k baru =]
Seip IMHO pizdiozhas che zhurnalistinis.
tai reiskia viso pasaulio zhurnalistai vienodai nusishneka? ir audi kompanija irgi nusisneka :)

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Spoogen wrote:
kwlw wrote:
p4r4z1t45 wrote:O bliaa :shock: 2k baru =]
Seip IMHO pizdiozhas che zhurnalistinis.
tai reiskia viso pasaulio zhurnalistai vienodai nusishneka? ir audi kompanija irgi nusisneka :)
Ok, ok barstau galva pelenais. Nespecialistas ash zyzeliu. Pasirodo, che dar naujesne karta tu dyzeliu. Common rail nazyvajetsia. Ish tiesu ten tie beprotishki slegiai buna fuel rail'e, ir purkshtukai pjezoelektriniai, kaip normaliam benzininiam ipurshkime. Monstrai :).

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kwlw wrote:beprotishki slegiai buna fuel rail'e, ir purkshtukai pjezoelektriniai, kaip normaliam benzininiam ipurshkime. Monstrai :).
nebutina barstyt ;) geriau pasakyk ar jie pritaikomi benzininiui, ir koks ju pralaidumas :lol:

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kwlw wrote: Ok, ok barstau galva pelenais. Nespecialistas ash zyzeliu. Pasirodo, che dar naujesne karta tu dyzeliu. Common rail nazyvajetsia. Ish tiesu ten tie beprotishki slegiai buna fuel rail'e, ir purkshtukai pjezoelektriniai, kaip normaliam benzininiam ipurshkime. Monstrai :).

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kwlw wrote:Pasirodo, che dar naujesne karta tu dyzeliu. Common rail nazyvajetsia. Ish tiesu ten tie beprotishki slegiai buna fuel rail'e, ir purkshtukai pjezoelektriniai
Common rail pirma karta pasirode 1997m, tai kaip ir jau ne visai naujiena.

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XR_as wrote:geriau pasakyk ar jie pritaikomi benzininiui, ir koks ju pralaidumas :lol:
Nu kaip, pritaikomi matyt, jei jau aubi klykia per visus galus apie savo FSI privalumus (kur kazkas tipo tokio ir stovi). Bet chia kaip su tais pachiais aubi purkshtukais - mano projekto aubi purkstukas prie 4 baru duoda kazkas 310ccm, mano kasdienines aubi purkshtukas prie 3 baru duoda kazkas 312ccm :). Pagavai minti ? Kokia boschas skyle ishgrezhia, tiek ccm ir duoda.

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kwlw wrote: Nu kaip, pritaikomi matyt
Tikiuosiu cia nerimtai? Nes kai kurie pasiskaite tokias mintis gali pradeti eksperimentuoti.
Bet siaip tai visiskai neimanoma pritaikyti, nes tarp dyzelio ir benzo purkstuku bendra tik tiek, jog tiek vienas tiek kitas pila kura. Visa kita, principas ir t.t. absoliuciai skirtinga

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wrx wrote:
Spoogen wrote:as irgi nesupratau :) Siaip tas audi nauji dyzeliai tuom ir ypatingi kad paduoda kura dar negirdetu spaudimu
Kuo tas spaudimas negirdetas? Cia juk dyzelis o ne benzas. Praktiskai visi tiesioginio ipurskimo dyzeliai nuo ~2002 slegis 1600 bar.
Audi dar padidino.
Kiaura nesamone. 1600 baru be problemu ispus plienini vamzdeli ir padarys is jo du gvazdikus :lol: :lol: :lol:
geriau kai taves nekencia uz tai kuo esi, negu gerbia uz tai, kuo apsimeti esas.

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su tokiu slegiu turetu stumoklio virsu deformuot

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pavlitoo wrote:su tokiu slegiu turetu stumoklio virsu deformuot
Ir is kur tokie egzpertai atsiranda...?
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ebola wrote:
wrx wrote:
Spoogen wrote:as irgi nesupratau :) Siaip tas audi nauji dyzeliai tuom ir ypatingi kad paduoda kura dar negirdetu spaudimu
Kuo tas spaudimas negirdetas? Cia juk dyzelis o ne benzas. Praktiskai visi tiesioginio ipurskimo dyzeliai nuo ~2002 slegis 1600 bar.
Audi dar padidino.
Kiaura nesamone. 1600 baru be problemu ispus plienini vamzdeli ir padarys is jo du gvazdikus :lol: :lol: :lol:
Pradzioj siulau pasidometi apie common rail sistema, po to sakyti kad nesamone. Skirkit viena dalyka - tai dyzelis.

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ok, pasidomesim. O jus pasidomekit kas yra 1600 baru savo ruoztu.
geriau kai taves nekencia uz tai kuo esi, negu gerbia uz tai, kuo apsimeti esas.

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ebola wrote:ok, pasidomesim. .
Truputi palengvinsiu, kad butu aisku:
http://www.swedespeed.com/news/publish/ ... r_272.html
A high-pressure pump generates in an accumulator – the rail – a pressure of up to 1,600 bar (determined by the injection pressure setting in the engine control unit), independently of the engine speed and the quantity of fuel injected. The fuel is fed through rigid pipes to the injectors, which inject the correct amount of fuel in a fine spray into the combustion chambers. The Electronic Diesel Control (EDC) controls extremely precisely all the injection parameters – such as the pressure in the Rail and the timing and duration of injection – as well as performing other engine functions.

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